With all the early deaths and problems being experienced - why don't we have a seminar/conference on healthy issues at the national as our educational program?. We could probably earn $'s by making it available to other breed clubs - or maybe some would go in with us to pay for expenses of such a conference. We have recently had seminars on how to get our bitches in whelp. Maybe that is putting the horse before the cart. I AM NOT SAYING reproductive seminars Aren't good or worthy BUT the time has come to face the fact that we have serious problems in the breed & we need to know how to breed away from them, BEFORE we put the dog and bitch together. Once again, we have bred ourselves into a corner, history is repeating itself. It doesn't matter who the stud dog and brood bitch may be - one simply cannot continue to go back to the same well time after time, that action puts the closely bred and now dominant genetic pool in a position to reproduce itself. - that's OK PROVIDED there is good health and longevity in the close breeding. In-breeding and line breeding were needed at times within the breed, especially In the late 1800's early 1900's in order to establish breed type - same with other breeds. Just my thoughts. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Arcturus Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 1:40 PM To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: all over the map A very good idea that is over due! It would be nice if this could be done somewhere in the middle of the country, or perhaps to have a yearly event held in conjunction witht he National. The purpose would be not to preach to the choir, but to get all breeders involved, including the backyard ones. It would only benefit the GSD! Just curious, why shouldn't they be using GSD's to sniff out drugs? When one of our daughters went to The Sugar Bowl as part of the school band the police brought in a Dutch Shepherd to sniff the suitcases. We happened to have a bitch in season at that time and it was amusing to watch the DS sniff and sniff. He never alerted of course, but the police checked the suitcase and then asked who it belonged too. I told them we had a bitch in season at home and admitted I was curious to see if thier dog would react to this smell. They seemed suspicious of me until I remarked that he hadn't forgotten his training, just took the time to check the "chick" out! Sue T ----- Original Message ----- From: <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 1:14 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] all over the map > The conversations over the past few weeks on DM and now Bloat/Torsion > confirm my belief that the parent club needs to sponsor a > Conference/symposium on issues concerning the > health/showing/owning/breeding of the GSD.....bringing in health > professionals to lead and discuss issues such as DM/ Bloat/CHP and all > types of things....handlers...judges....breeders...vets....you name it we > could have it...two days at a Major Hotel....If the National Racing Pigeon > Club ( don't know if that is the correct name) can have a symposium, than > why can't the club?....I'm no longer a member, but I sure would attend > this type of event, with GSDCA/WDA hosting the world show next year....the > time is over do!...Tish was able to get Video streaming on her watch as > President....maybe Frank and this board will make this happen, this is why > there should be term limits for Board members, it seems like the same few > folks are recycled every few years and very few things ever change.....on > another subject > ....Several high-school districts in Northern CA are using police dogs ( > GSDs) to sniff out drugs on campus......having both a law-enforcement and > education background I am very much against this for many reasons.....I > know a better way to get this problem under control....won't get into that > here!......when is the next Dog show?......look out Jockos ( Santa Maria > show)...here I come!.....do you kiss your spouse hello when you come home > from work?.....I told you I was all over the map..lol...FB > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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