[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a question to the board/membership

From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:45:29 +0000 (UTC)
that's good to know...lol...Ed 
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From: "Lyn Chernak" <cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 2:41:03 PM 
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a question to the board/membership 

Paulette ..... BRAVO!!!! Very well put. 
And yes Ed, there are those that do know the names of OB Victors/Victrix 
(and even check out the blood-lines) 

ï¿½ 
Lyn Chernak 
CherLyn Shepherds - Updated Nov 29,2011 
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http://www.cherlynshepherds.com 
Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership 
ï¿½ï¿½ CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC 
ï¿½ï¿½Ulric vom Kriegerhaus, CD, RA, TC, CGC ï¿½ï¿½ 



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Â From: "cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 4:07 PM 
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a question to the board/membership 
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Ed, I agree that the Board is not there to make ED HILL happy.ï¿½ Why?ï¿½ 
Because ED HILL is not a member of the Club!ï¿½ This is the FIRST time that I 
have ever expressed such an opinion on this issue.ï¿½ So how have I been saying 
what I did every two minutes?ï¿½ Do you not read who makes the posts?ï¿½ You 
know what?ï¿½ If I did feel like expressing my opinion every two minutes, I'd 
do so. 

It may be a nothing argument to you, but the issue is important to me.ï¿½ I'm 
sure I must be the only one who feels this way. 

BTW, no need to point out what my options are.ï¿½ Don't you think I already 
know what they are?ï¿½ Just as I know that you are very familiar with option 4) 
Quitting the Club.ï¿½ When you don't like something the Board has done, that 
seems to be the only option you consider. 

One last thing...ï¿½ There is no Obedience Grand Victor -- only Obedience 
Victor/Victrix. 


Note to ADMIN...ï¿½ Feel free to put me on MODPOST or give me a warning for 
attacking a List member; however, I will not be castigated, by anyone, for 
expressing an opinion on this List.ï¿½ Especially not by someone who is not a 
Club member when Club issues are being discussed, and therefore has no vested 
interest in how the GSDCA BOD votes on this or any other issue. 


PaulETTE McGuirt, GSDCA Member 
Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds 
Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam 

PSï¿½ Thank you Molly for your objective response to my post! 


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From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx 
To: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 2:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a question to the board/membership 


my question is who decides what a "decision of magnitude" is?.......the board ( 
elected by the members) is not there to made ED HILL happy!...several boards 
have made decisions that I have NOT agreed with......we ( you) have about 4 
choices....1. let the board do their job 2. don't like the job they did, vote 
them out 3. get rid of the board and vote on everything and pray Canadians 
members get their ballots 4. quit the club........we all, ( well not me)....all 
CLUB members have every right to be upset at any or all decisions the board 
makes.....but this cry of saying every two minutes that we ( you) should have 
had a vote,,...where does it end...nothing will ever get done.......this is a 
nothing argument compared to some really big things that are much more 
important than the qualifications for an Obedience GV, most of whom no one can 
name and even fewer can remember...oey vay....Ed Hill 



From: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:21:54 AM 
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a question to the board/membership 

Zoe writes:ï¿½ "This is a Club award - and the club can make whatever 
requirements it wants.ï¿½ It is not a 
standard change, and the Club can decide NOT to use the standard to create 
requirements for 
the award whenever it deems it appropriate. " 


Therein lies the problem...ï¿½ The *BOARD* is who decided not to use the 
Standard to create requirements for the award, not the CLUB!!!ï¿½ I'm sure the 
comeback will be, "The Board represents the Club." 


Well, when a decision of this magnitude is being considered, I feel it should 
be voted on by the members of the Club.ï¿½ Not just Board members. 



PaulETTE McGuirt, GSDCA Member 
Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds 
Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam 

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From: "Doc Zoe" <wynsum@xxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:56 PM 
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] a question to the board/membership 


On 9 Feb 2012, at 12:48, Carolyn Martello wrote: 

AND........even if it were meant to be whites only.........no one who 
adheres to the Standard should have the authority to choose to pick and 
choose WHICH disqualifying fault does not matter?? 

<reply> 

This is a Club award - and the club can make whatever requirements it wants.ï¿½ 
It is not a 
standard change, and the Club can decide NOT to use the standard to create 
requirements for 
the award whenever it deems it appropriate.ï¿½ If the standard was being used, 
then any altered 
dog would not be elligible for these awards. 

Two whites qualified for Obedience Victress.ï¿½ They were denied the award.ï¿½ 
Whites rarely come 
to the National to compete in Performance because of this - and they are CLUB 
members. 

Color of an animal is irrelevant in Performance.ï¿½ It is relevant in 
Conformation. 

By the standards set, an ILP/PAL dog can get this award - and they might not 
even be 
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