These are my thoughts, Barb. I really am not talking about the "ooops" litters, that the owners of the "ooopsies" are selling in Penny Saver as "designer Dogs." I am talking about those breeders who are keeping records, trying to refine the progeny to run true to their concept. As far as mutts in obedience? I'm with those who say, today a mutt, tomorrow one of our Purebreds... or maybe not. But at least they are learning to take care of their dogs, training them, HAVING FUN with them. Which may not be what may purebred owners do. There are recent (10-20 years)crosses today that are becoming pure to "their" breed and some have made it into AKC and other registries. Breeding working dogs for type and temperament, not particularly from a single breed, was with what I grew up, so maybe that's a source of my belief. Sheep herders at that time were thrilled and at the gate, when Herder A had a new litter of their proven line of McNab/Aussie, with maybe a little Border thrown in:-) Storm On Apr 27, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Barbara Hahn wrote: > While I know the philosophy is the betterment of purebred dogs, where > did they come from? All of the breeds we can identify taken far enough > back turn into other breeds or generic "dog". If we could fast forward > 50 or 60 years who knows which of the designer dogs will be recognized > as a breed by AKC or whoever is around doing such things. I would > rather > have them in the tent with me than outside doing "Dog" knows what. > > Barb > > On 4/27/11 5:25 PM, Arcturus wrote: >> I know, I know! Our club did the same thing...I think the words >> were even >> the same: H*%$ NO! Sadly though, it comes down to money. >> Sometimes >> those extra obedience entries can make a difference. The argument is: >> "maybe we can bring those folkes into the purebred world. 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