[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a new question on a previous thread

  • From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx
  • To: Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:40:11 -0500 (EST)

Very good points, Diane.
 
I worked with a vet that was also a Great Dane breeder. He opened my eyes  
to the practice of "tacking" and how common a practice it was/is in the 
Great  Dane community, and most extra large breeds for that matter. However, he 
also  shared that people talk very openly about it and it was/is a practice 
directed  at saving dogs lifes and preventing suffering to those dogs, more 
than to  deceive breeders.  Of course (as he said with a smile), the 
accuracy of  that statement can only be determined by the moral compass of 
those 
involved.  Generally speaking, when he dealt with these large breed dogs for 
spaying and  neutering, they got tacked. End of story. These dogs didn't 
directly affect  their breeds because they are being removed from the breeding 
pool. 
 
Tacking does not prevent a dog from bloating or torsioning. It does,  
however, offers the vet extra precious minutes to try and save the animal's  
life. Some dogs torsion so badly that the tacking actually creates more damage  
by tearing more tissue. I witnessed this in a Great Dane and an English 
Bulldog.  Both died.
 
You learn a lot working at a vet office, sadly sometimes.
 
Also, his policy was that any dog from a large or extra large breed  (over 
50 pounds) that was brought into the hospital with gastric  issues and 
distended stomachs were to be considered bloat/torsion victims until  proven 
otherwise. That  would raise the sense of urgency needed to quickly  triage and 
deal with that animal, and even if many dogs proved not to be  B/T patients, 
the expedited service was, ultimately, beneficial.
 
I know, I know, many  are talking about animals that have B/T and are  
still being bred, or offered at stud. 
Sadly, the rumor mill is always working.  Jealousy plays a big part.  Its 
not always true, but its not always a lie. Who can you trust??
 
Judging by the amount of private emails I have gotten today, many share  
your view. Animals that are bred or used as studs that have been altered,  be 
it color, teeth, tails, ears, whatever. In addition, animals that are taking 
 a numerous amount of medications (thyroid, enzymes,petcalm) to be 
"healthy"  and "sound", animals that produce mega, bad bites, missing teeth, 
name  
it. Why?
 
Ego.  
 
My original post required simply a yes or no answer. But it was distorted  
to offer all kind of reasoning and excuses, and also some interesting posts  
about "partial" spaying. <G> My favorite..."is that like being a little  
bit pregnant"......
 
Is the sky falling?  No.  Are all these practices  damaging our breed?  Yes.
 
* Ileana  *
.  
 
In a message dated 1/25/2013 2:01:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx writes:

The GSD  standard is clear and AKC rules and regs are (sort of) clear; they 
  
leave little room for confusion re showing/judging a neutered  dog.   
Neuticals aside, (and that's a whole other subject),  there is little room 
for  
debate re a dog being "whole" or not.   But that made me wonder ... how 
many  
spayed bitches are being  shown?  Unlike the males, those girls have no  
obvious signs of  their reproductive status so how is a judge to know?  And 
 THAT  
got me thinking again ... a dangerous thing.

What about those dogs  who are shown with fixed ears, tails, bites, 
enhanced 
color etc?   Those are true cover-ups and do the breed no good  whatsoever. 
But it  gets worse.  What about dogs who have or have had  serious health  
issues which have been surgically corrected and/or  prevented?   I am 
especially referring to gastric B/T and/or preventative   gastropexy being 
done to 
prevent B/T?  Rules may be rules but, good  grief,  don't we have some 
moral 
obligation to the breed?  A dog  who has or has had  a major health issue 
like 
B/T should, IMHO, not  be promoted, bred or stood at  stud so why would 
they 
continue to be  shown?

Just  curious,

Diane

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From:  InquestGSD@xxxxxxx
To: inquestgsd@xxxxxxx,   barbara17236@xxxxxxx
CC: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 1/24/2013  9:05:09  P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Showing  spayed or neutered  animals
Thank You .....a couple of new exhibitors  can now show their lovely  bitch 
in VETERANS, and not in BOB, since  now they have been gently educated.  
Next, to help them find a new  dog to show in regular  classes.

:-)

* Ileana *
Love me,  love my dogs.  


Diane  Silver-Strasser
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