HI Fran, I can you are determined to get me in trouble, so be it! I can only speak for myself. I do believe that a GSD can move correctly at faster speeds. I do not believe a GSD can herd sheep or cattle all day long at those speeds. I do believe there are a " few " judges that can judge a correct moving GSD at high speed. Unfortunately, there are many that can't. Yes a good handler can hide many structural and incorrect movement in a high speed GSD under what some see as performance. Bob Freeny ________________________________ From: Fran Henry <fhenry1@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Robert Freeny <rfreeny@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 4:27:41 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a new question about showing GSD's Thank you, Bob, for responding. But, you didn't address the question below, and I'd really appreciate knowing what you think. Can a judge determine correct movement without having the dogs racing at break-neck speed? Doesn't excessive speed allow a handler to mask faults? I have no agenda, and your answer remains with me. Isn't it sad we have to say things like that? Thanks for talking to me. Fran Henry ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================