You bring up a good point. I have never seen a GSD specialty supporting an AB club here in SoCal. Yet it is very common in other breeds. Perhaps that is an option for some regional GSD clubs. Many AB clubs hold specialties on Thurs or Friday, depending on the cluster. The AB shows to follow. The specialty clubs do have some say in the AB shows as they are supporting the club with the specialtiy. Asking for a bigger ring for the AB shows wouldn't be out of line if the GSD club is supporting the show. Another option to bring in entries for both AB and specialties. Do one weekend with major entries compared to many weekends of no/broken entries, travel, handler and tons of expenses. Just a thought. Laura Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Michele Panetta <rockstarshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> To: fairway97045 <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 9:59 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a new question about showing GSD's As someone who has both Goldens and GSD's and has shown both as a owner andler I believe that t is easier for a owner/handler to win in the golden ring than a GSD ring. 'm in S. Florida and we do have breeders and exhibitors with GSD's yet none f them enter the all breed shows. The rings are small for GSD's and when a lighty larger ring is asked for the answer has been NO. ur Golden specialty is held on a Friday and we have two all breed shows on at and Sunday. We always have pulled majors. The GSD's that; show in a specialty aren't shown in all breeds. Example anuary circuit majors in 6 specialties in GSD's and the rest of the week at he all breeds maybe if you were lucky 5 to 10 GSD's the next two weeks. Go figure ichele ock Star hepherds / Goldens n Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > What makes showing GSD's different than showing Golden's? Why are they hanging on to their entries and we are losing? =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================