In a message dated 9/6/2010 9:39:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: "You know you're not going to win, don't you?" NO, I DIDN'T. I guess I could say that to everyone at every show. Except for one winner, The Best of Breed I could look like I knew what I was saying. It is how you look at things. I have heard people that pulled their dogs because someone else was "supposed to win". Sure enough, they didn't win on the dogs they pulled. I know there is some strange judging here and there, but more often it is lack of knowledge. There is little incentive to be dishonest. No money is involved, nothing is gained by putting up one dog or another, and I think in 40 some years, I have seen two or three actual set up shows. Now, I have heard of them being set up, such as "it is set up for Scoop". And, sure enough Scoop won. But, that is an easy prediction. You see what you expect to see. If you go to the shows expecting honesty and an effort by the judge to do the right thing, that is what you will see. If you go thinking it is dishonest, you can always find a way to justify it. You see what you want, and it is your choice. If you do continue to see such dishonesty, try raising rabbits. When you lose you can eat them. I suppose there are crooked rabbit judges too, but it seems a bit strange. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================