You lost me....why would anyone breed a bitch w/ DM? Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 12/29/2012 4:52:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, helenfranklin520@xxxxxxxxx writes: You can check if a dog is DM Clear in a matter of a few months NOT years. Breed the dog to a bitch with DM and blood test the progeny. If you have any progeny test positive for DM the dog was not free of DM. If all the progeny are free of DM and carriers only....the dog was free of DM. A dog free of the long coast gene does not produce a long coat, a dog free of the DM gene does not produce DM. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Cynthia Van Den Berge <vande001@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Helen, I have a couple of thoughts...I agree that truth will tell, but the > problem is that if a stud owner is dishonest, the time...several years at > least before the truth comes out in progeny, a lot of breedings could be > made. A lot of heartbroken owners! Most of the time DM does not become > evident until the dog is 3 or 4 or older. > I do not agree that "old age DM" is in any way normal. A nine or ten year > old dog who is cripple and drags its rear, is incontinent and the rest is > not normal aging. It may be a variation of DM, but it is DM nonetheless > and not normal. > I think we have a real problem in our breed with issues of spinal disease > and immunodeficiency. It is insidious in that its genetic component is so > darn complex and tests are in their infancy. It is so sad and > heartbreaking. 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