They are a DQ under the black nose pigment section. They do not have black noses, and are DQed for that reason. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: edwinx <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: The List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:39 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Yesterday Spending 4 hours at the vet's office (hospital) yesterday is not the way I planned it.....it did get to watch the first two innings of the World Series right at the end of my adventure...among the hundreds of reading materials in the hugh waiting rooms was the AKC Complete Dog Book edition 19 could be wrong on the exact title...it had all the breed standards....I must have read 20 different standards....well of course I read "ours" first...been many years since I read it....perhaps therein lies my problem..lol...any how I was surprised to see that blues and livers are NOT DQs according to our standard....did I read this correctly or did I have an old version of the AKC book...I was reading the 19th addition.....why am I evolved in this sport?..lol...FB ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================