In a message dated 6/21/07 4:50:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, helen@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: If you are happy with the rules as they stand, then for sure I am happy too. You do the work. You are in the trenches. If ever you wish to change the rules or are unhappy with them, then through your Parent Club and AKC Delegate you contact the American Kennel Club with a proposed revision for the judging of parent club futurities/maturities. They can become an unsanctioned match, or depending on negations, other arrangements may be made. Dog showing and shows also evolve and due to the nature of the beast (no pun intended) change of themselves as needs change. Pending that, (speaking as an attorney) you follow the rules. I agree with Helen. If you feel a law can be changed, you have the right to fight for the change. You can legislate changes, you can petition for a difference, and you can vote to elect those who will work for change. But, up to the time of the change, you follow the rules and the laws, or stand for the penalties. As Tish told us, the four month rule has been in effect for 15 years. For me, if a handler has shown for me, I would not want him showing under me for a year, at least. But, that is just me. Rules are there to be followed, even those we do not like. Evan (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================