Jackie....I know I answered you privately but figured I would send it to the list too...here is my opinion... OK, to try answer your question, we all have our opinions of a good judge; I have seen good judges withhold ribbons and bad judges withhold ribbons; if a judge is doing their job and following the standard which we hope they are then if, on THAT day in THEIR opinion, they withhold a ribbon, it is just their opinion on THAT day. Withholding a ribbon does not make a good judge or a bad judge; it is the judging that they have done in the past, but that is just my opinion. I don't think there is an actual YES or NO to your question but that is just my thinking. I would not show to a judge that puts up "square" dogs and many exhibitors feel the same way....square is not in the standard but these judges get assignments....just know your judges and go from there....I don't think we are losing any good judges because of withholding ribbons but blanket comments like "dysplastic" from judges about something they actually "don't know" can be detrimental to the serious exhibitor...JMHO Pat Lukos Sarava German Shepherds ----- Original Message ----- From: <MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Withholding Ribbons and Judging assignments > I've gotten several responses...nobody has answered the actual question > yet. > Only berated the judge. You may feel how you wish about the judge, but my > question was: If a judge withholds ribbons, and they don't get anymore > assignments, is it because they are a bad judge, or because people just > didn't like it > that a judge dared tell them that their prize winning dog isn't worthy of > a > ribbon? > - Jackie > > Marcato Shepherds > Where it's about function, not flash > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================