I was talking to somebody about an all breed show my home club had last year, and she was watching the Shepherds being judged. She asked the judge how they felt about the dogs entered, and her response was that they were all dysplastic. When she then asked the judge why she didn't withhold ribbons, the judge responded in kind "If I withhold ribbons, I don't get assignments." So, my question is this: If a judge withholds ribbons, and they don't get anymore assignments, is it because they are a bad judge, or because people just didn't like it that a judge dared tell them that their prize winning dog isn't worthy of a ribbon? It would stand to reason that if the dog has won before it is a good dog, but we all know that isn't the case all the time. For all we know, the dog only got a ribbon because the judge wanted to continue judging, instead of being dumped because they didn't award ribbons to what they felt was an unqualified group of animals. Are we possibly depriving ourselves of a truly GOOD judge, just because we aren't pleased with the fact that they didn't like the dogs that were presented to them? You're welcome to respond privately or to the list, but please, let's not make this an "all breed judge vs breeder judge" thing. - Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where it's about function, not flash ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================