Barbara, I am not attacking you. I just want to talk to you about Athena now and then. Obviously I thought Athena was beautiful, I actually entered her in the national. What nerve I had. Please have a nice Christmas and forget all the Bah Humbug stuff. I will call later in The week. Cynthia -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara or DTA Amidon Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:55 AM To: cyndoc@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Winners now gambling..?? First I would like to say I did not know this list was for personal attacks on people..This woman called every one for a puppy..I told her I didnt want to sell her one as she talks to everyone..That if she wanted to listen to me etc I would consider her..I sold her reasonable a BEAUTIFUL OVER 3 MONTHS OLD PUPPY..SHE had great motion and was beautiful to look at..Champion sired..She took her to a dog show for Abbey Hathaway to look at..THEY TOLD HER she was not ready for the national in 2 weeks that she should bring her back in a month..THey absolutely did not say they would not show her..They called me on it ..As puppies do go through growth stages she was told to work her in puppy classes and let her grow..I dont live close to her but she could have come to my place anytime..Eza Kabuska saw her as did Charlene both thought she was lovely..Here is a case of a novice gossiping to people instead of listening to the breeder..Such disrespect going on a list to air this nonsense ..So much for ethics..So much for holiday spirit BAH HUM BUG Barbara Amidon www.amber-german-shepherds.com -----Original Message----- From: Cynthia Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:07 PM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Winners now gambling..?? I am a newbie. I have an amber puppy bitch that is 8 mos old. I went to a judge because I couldn't judge for myself. My puppy lacks rear drive right now and a handler refused to show her. Kathy said I was lucky that I was told the truth. My puppy has a very slight overbite. Barbara Amidon was very nice and promised that she would get me something else if Amber's Goddess Athena was not a star. I am waiting because Charlene Marchand believes in this line. Barbara is now not speaking to me because of all the bickering surrounding my puppy. (Barbara lets be nice its Christmas time). I absolutely love my puppy. Many have told me to get rid of her. Its hard to do. As to not selling your best to a newbie: I feel that you should be honest in telling the person buying what they are buying. If the puppy is minimal show quality then say so. This is the right thing to do. If someone insists on having a superb quality animal then tell them to wait till it is older and you are sure. The charge should reflect this. The problem may be that newbies are being sold such poor quality that they never make it to the ring. Many people on this list comment on newbies not staying in the breed. What are each of you doing to help? BTW thank you Kathy for all your keen insight. It is enlightening. Dr. Cynthia Pena Chiropractor -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:16 PM To: marcatogsd@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Winners now gambling..?? I am not sure I follow you. Please explain.Christine > [Original Message] > From: <marcatogsd@xxxxxxx> > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 12/16/2006 2:55:32 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Winners now gambling..?? > > "It would seem to reason if you > want a great one..the chances of getting a great one would be greater > if you buy from those who have produced a great one, or two, or > three..wouldn't it? So my question to newbies is..why don't you do this?" > > There are quite a few reasons...but most people don't like what they hear. > > - Jackie > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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