[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Winners now gambling..??
- From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
- To: <zgrace_grace@xxxxxxxxx>, <MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:40:56 -0800
----- Original Message ----- From: Grace Eaton To: MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx ;
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I'm a newbie and I've learned a "show prospect puppy" is ALWAYS a gamble. One
I'm willing to take BECAUSE...the ONLY SUREFIRE way to buy a show dog is to buy
one older and POINTED. Good
luck finding that. Anyone with a pointed dog is going to keep that pointed
dog and campaign it to
Championship if they can. Unless some crazy unusual circumstance makes it any
different. Thats
my take on it anyway. Grace Eaton
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I don't necessarily agree with this. Most breeders know their lines enough
to be pretty sure
when they've got a real show puppy. Obviously things can go wrong on a
young puppy....but
things can go wrong even with an an older "prospect" also.
We've sold dogs with major points. One was a Maturity winner....finished
easily in his new
home, one with both majors finished and became the sire of a U.S. Grand
Victor from a breeding
we did before we placed him.....the other a gorgeous dog that severely
injured his back playing
soccer and never finished. ( one of those things that can go wrong
....<G>...LIFE is a gamble )
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx wrote:
But this is what I don't understand! So many people say "Don't get a puppy!
Don't get a puppy!"
but that's all we new people see is available! Every now and then I see
somebody's site with
something such as "9 month old Show prospect available!" but I can't help
but be a bit skeptical,
because with everything I've seen/learned/been taught, the whole reason
people keep back
puppies is to see if they'll turn out...and then at 9 months it's "show
prospect available!"
Maybe they don't have the room they thought they have, and maybe it didn't
turn out the way
THEY wanted it to...but how am I supposed to know if it really IS a show
quality puppy if they're
giving it up at 9 months of age!?
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Why do you assume they are "giving up"......maybe they just grew them through
a couple
of stages, from pasterns going soft to some sloppiness, or a questionable
bite, or soft
ear or whatever.
Also......as per your last statement on this post.....you absolutely MUST
learn to deal with
disappointment if you want to breed and show dogs! EVERY successful
breeder has
suffered pain and disappointment........you aren't allowed to be an
exception.......<G>
Welcome to the sport of breeding and showing dogs......you WILL suffer....and
grin a lot!
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
It's very confusing, and it makes me very wary, especially after having so
many things fall
through/go wrong with other breeders/puppies.
So people say (using Mo's example) "I would never touch a show prospect at
less than a
year and one that had good pre-lims", well, you're established, you have
connections...you
can easily find those dogs. What about the newbie/novice that has NO CLUE?!
I would very much like my next prospect to be older, because I just CANNOT
deal with the disappointment of ears again if they don't stand, and I'd
prefer a
bitch unless a dog's testicles have dropped FOR SURE because I don't want to
be having that issue again (aka, I'm sick of disappointment), but where do we
really look, and how do we really know?
- Jackie
In a message dated 12/15/2006 7:36:14 PM Central Standard Time,
murk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
If you want a show dog, don't start with a baby puppy, or if you insist,
> don't blame anyone when the hopes and dreams you had aren't fulfilled.
- Jackie
Marcato Shepherds
Where it's about function, not flash
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