you know we all talk about honest judging and we get upset when it is our perception that the judging is "suspect"...and in my opinion sometimes it is.....last night I had a conversation with a friend who is also an AKC GSD Judge...since this was a private conversation Its not proper to give his or her name here....we talked about the subject of how it is "expected" of the judge to award best of winners to the sex ( dog or bitch) that failed to reach a "major" that day...we both agreed that this is WRONG!......if the dog is not better than the bitch he should not go BOW just to get her major...it is not honest judging!...if there were not enough dogs that day to make a major...then that's too damn bad.......same with BOB...don't award an animal a win over another who is better that day just to give that dog or bitch a major....if we were doing this show thing right and growing this sport all shows would be majors...it is none of the judges business if the major held or not... her job is to find the best dog each time a new class walks into her ring period, end of story.........it should be a struggle to become a champion!...you don't get strong with out a struggle...you can't lose weigh with out a struggle....anything worth doing well you will struggle to be good at it......off to school...man I love those kids...FB ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================