This is an opinion that comes up every ten years or so. I first heard it with Lance. We were breeding so much on Lance, that the breed was doomed. Some went so far as to advertise that they lines free of Lance. Then I remember Flag. There were so many Flag litters and everyone was trying to breed back and make the lines stronger by breeding into Flag lines. Lately I hear Aries. I know everything that was winning was from the same lines, and we doubled up on those breeding to get another super dog. It seems to come about now and then. Yes, there can be problem when you breed animals, (not just dogs). But, from what I see, and read, we are no different than the other breeds with different problems. It is hard to have dogs dying on you and not think the entire breed is that way Maybe it isn't as bad on the West Coast, or maybe there is more communication about it back East. And, maybe it is just an individuals's perception due to what they went through. I know we had two Scorpio sons die of torsion. That was probably about 20 years ago, and until our house dog died last month of torsion at age 10, we have not have a single dog show up with it. So, you have to look at the big picture, the national data banks and not your own statistics. If you think we are driving people from the breed, how do you answer that it still is within the to three in registration, as it has been for over 50 years? We, those who breed, know what is going on. We know what we are doing, and how we are protecting the breed. It is easy to criticize, but the breeders I deal with are working hard to eliminate problems in the breed, and are doing a good job of it. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 6/11/13 7:27:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ducksavsfan@xxxxxxxxx writes: I'm probably going to have an unpopular opinion here, but as I see it, we're breeding ourselves into a corner that we won't be able to get out of. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================