In a message dated 11/11/2008 4:12:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx writes: The truth is that it takes fewer people to control a weighted ballot - all you need to do is select the one judge you want to elect for sure and get a small group of people to only vote for that one. It takes a lot more people to control a weighted ballot. Actually it is the other way around. With one vote for each, we were given three votes. One for Dogs, one for Bitches and one for Specials. So, when we voted we gave each person one vote. The theory was that the highest would be the Special judge. Instead a group of German style got together and only voted one time, all for Fred Lanting. The rest of us voted for different people and spread out vote. We know what happened. Tom vote first for Bill, second for George, and third choice is Mary. Alden votes first for Ollie, second for Sue, and third choice is Mary. Moses votes first for Barbara, second for Iris,and third choice is Mary. Mary, who was no ones' first choice, ends up with the most votes and does Specials, even though neither Tom, Alden or Moses wanted Mary as their first choice. The only real solution to one person one vote is to give only one vote to each person. Then it works. But, since we have three judges, we give each person three votes, and the election isn't truly going to the proper person. That is why a weighted ballot. We get to say who we want for Specials, dogs or bitches. With but one vote, we don't decide. I have trouble making this clear in writing, but when I presented it to the board I had graphs. I find I no longer care. Build it and I will come. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================