In a message dated 12/9/11 9:52:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, ninemaplefarm@xxxxxx writes: Thus, it would seem, the show ring, and only the show ring, is what determines correct breed standard? Is this correct? You need to understand the purpose of conformation. It is to judge the dog against the standard. It is not to see who can run the longest, or jump the highest, or to learn the fastest. Conformation has only one thing to judge and that is which dog comes closest to the standard. It is true that it is up to the judge. But, if the basis of the requirement is to match the standard, then that is the best test of all if the purpose is to match the standard. If you don't want dogs that match the standard, there are lots of other things you can do with them, and not worry about the standard. A dog does not have to look like a shepherd to do agility, herding, or even obedience. It doesn't even have to be a German shepherd. But, if you want to try to meet the breed standard, conformation is the ring to be in. It will never be perfect, but it is the major test for the standard. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================