You are exactly right Joan, and I was on the board with you sharing the frustrations and drama of the issues. It would have to be a privately funded, individual effort. No approval asked, none needed. Just my opinion. Dave From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 6:01 AM To: d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ELG440@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Why it doesn't work David, All this is wonderful but where would we get the money to do either project? Linda and I tried to start this up but soon found people were not willing to spend the time and their own money to do the interviews. I had contact with Lloyd Brackets granddaughter as an example. Video producing costs enormous amounts of money. As to the IS, other clubs do it. I have beautiful breed standards here in full color. AKC helps with this project also. The problem is, when I was on the Board, that only one artists drawings were considered and many of them were incorrect and slanted and the demands of the artist put an end to the project. I believe the present money woes will not let either project go forward now. Joan Joan F. Fox 17500 Haskins Rd. Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023 tel: 440-759-4119 http://www.campaignersgsds.com/ On Friday, August 22, 2014 8:13 AM, David Fritsche <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: Evan, I share your view of committees and probably of juries as well. Though part of the American system of management, they often consume far more oxygen than they need to and accomplish less than a committed individual. I have always loved your idea of the interviews and would encourage you to just do it. I also love the idea of having an illustrated standard, but if this volatile issue is given to a committee again it will probably never happen. Would love to see Carolyn or someone with some artistic ability to just do it and publish it and let the critics take their shots. Then someone else can publish their contrasting illustrations and we can have things to compare and contrast and ultimately something useful. Maybe! My wife Linda and I are very different. I will plan the work, write it, gather the resources and set a schedule. Her motto is, just do it, get it done and if it is wrong make the necessary corrections. She usually gets more done that the rest of the world. Dave _________________________________________ This is a perfect example of why committees don't work. A few years ago I decided to have a series of video interviews done, and was going to do them at my expense. I wanted to interview Bob Penny, Dave and Martha Rinke, Cappy and Gloria, Gail Sprock, Joan and Fran Ford, and a number of others. Some members of the Board heard what I planned to do, and decided to get involved. They assigned it to someone who had a background in video work, and I decided it was best to let them take it over as they had a very different idea of who to include in the intereviews. That was the last I heard of it. Bob Penney died, then we lost Joan Ford, then Gail, and nothing ever got done. The person who was to head up the project then died. That too is why I have not let anyone take over the Junior Handler award. I still need donations, and it is a great amount of work, but I have no committee to answer to. Daphne Hereford has been a big help, but I keep the project to myself. PLEASE SEND ME DONATIONS, PLEASE. Tom and Vivian have worked endlessly to now have a committee taking it over. It will be interesting to see what happens. I recently talked to Carmen, who is working on it. The work Tom and Vivian did is amazing, but now others are working on it. Evan --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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