You are correct, many dogs are double handled--not just shepherds. A few years back when I showed my Kerry blue Specials, he had to be doubled to pull his neck out of his shoulders. A current smooth fox terrier being specialed right now is always doubled.. I stand next to the handlers wife in the Best in Show or group ring and listen to her. I joke and say, "girlfriend, why is it never we have a conversation until your husbands smooth is on the table..." She said, "Being a shepherd person, I should know what shes doing". The AKC rep once offered her a cough drop and then said, "When I had a kerry bitch out, I had to do the same thing". I think shepherd people get a "bad rap" from being a bit extreme with it. The current AKC rep out here, (she used to breed kerries and a terrier judge) asked one day about this double handling. I said it was to get the dogs attention and perk them up and sometimes get them to drive off their hind end. She said that she had to do that with her own dog when she was being specialed; She said if they were a bit discreet, used keys, squeaked a toy, or just held a conversation while standing in the "right place", it would be just fine--most breeds use that method. Mike ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================