Perhaps using the word "confirmation" was a typo.... However and nevertheless.... the spelling of the word would be easier to remember if it is clearly understood that "conformation" shows are a test and/or contest: each entry is judged pertinent to how closely each of them is "conformed" to the Standard. The "Standard" is a Standard of perfection, describing the perfect German Shepherd Dog. Alas... no perfect dogs and no perfect people. Jane Kerner -----Original Message----- From: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx" for DMARC) Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 10:57 AM To: midwall@xxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Why aren't you including everyone... conformation is showing dogs not confirmation In a message dated 7/29/2014 12:00:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, midwall@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: This survey is not helpful or relevant. Excluding the people who breed and exhibit in venues other than confirmation is really not fair. Many of these people breed as close if not closer to the standard than confirmation exhibitors. They also make sure their dogs are capable of the work they ask of the them (mind and body). Excluding people who have not bred two champions is rather elitist and excludes new people or people who don't breed but show, or who are just starting out their breeding program. Being new, exhibiting, or breeding rarely or being new does not mean that we are ignorant of pedigrees or do not have an opinion about the inclusion or exclusion of whites or coats or anything else that pertains to the breed. As for the ballot... lumping the two issues together is going to be problematic... and the club will still be in a pickle. Regardless of where you fall on these two issues, it does not appear that a single ballot will serve the membership well, nor will excluding anyone from participating. 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