Will try to answer to the best of my knowledge: I want to know if all dogs that test for both markers of DM do show signs of it. NO, the markers simply indicate that the dog is a carrier of the disease; it does not indicate that the dog will show signs at time of death. I want to know if dogs free of DM markers ever go down in the rear from causes not known? YES, IVVD for one, we need more Necropsies!! I want to know if we breed free of the two DM markers for generations if we can eliminate DM from the breed? That is the prayer and hope of everyone, In theory YES Morgan Lewis, RPh. Member GSDCA President Last Hope of Georgia 501c3 "So Much to Do, So Little Time" ________________________________ From: "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:40 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Why I want more information about DM My Big Ben kids did not show signs of DM, xxxxxxxx died from cancer at age 12 and her sister died at 11. Their brother xxxxxx who you remember had perianal fistulas :-( I had to put him to sleep at age 7, very sad.. This is a quote I got from someone who had Ben progeny. I want to know if all dogs that test for both markers of DM do show signs of it. I want to know if dogs free of DM markers ever go down in the rear from causes not known? I want to know if we breed free of the two DM markers for generations if we can eliminate DM from the breed? I remember when they diagnosed DM by not being able to find any other cause of the symptoms. Now that we have a test, how sure is it that every dog that goes down in the rear, with no other cause is now tested to have both DM markers? I am willing to read and listen. But, so far I am not satisfied that every dog with one marker should be eliminated from the gene pool. We seem to have so many other problems in the breed right now. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org ; SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================