Paul adds... Lissa is spot on in her assessment. Must be why we're partners with her in breeding some pretty fine dogs. Her experience in horses has been invaluable in many of our efforts so I would say to those on "Da List"...take heed. Lissa and Jenn just got a puppy from Lori. Lilly is a wonderful long coat bitch...bright, excellent temperament, and will be an excellent addition to our lines. Our current males don't carry the coat factor so that was not even a consideration. She comes from a background mixed with dual titles on her pedigree. Jenn and Lissa can't wait to get her on da sheepies. We hope to expound on such a pedigree when added to our own bloodlines. I make this post as it gives an insight on how we work to improve our breeding program. We have a super Patriot son outta Magnolia that while isn't a line breeding...was type to type. The Elmo X Honey breeding is that same type to type. When those kids and Lily are old enough, we will begin a line breeding with those new lines hopefully producing more dual titled dogs and improving the breed at the same time. Paul, forgive me as I am a newbie.....I thought long coats are not to be bred, they are not in acceptable standard. ????? ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ Kris Kudel Vom Kristallaugen Shepherds Visit http://mysite.verizon.net/krisbob1/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================