The discussion of judges showing their own dogs is as old as time, and if it had anything to do with specialty clubs disappearing they would have all disappeared a long time ago. The GSD specialty world is and always has been relatively small, even when it wasn't an endangered species the way it is now. I've been to many specialty shows where almost all of the people at ringside were either judges or lifelong breeders, and they all know one another. Does that mean that if one of them has a dog in the show and it wins that the win must somehow be dishonest? I don't think so. If they have the best dog they SHOULD win, and it also shouldn't matter if they're a member of the hosting club or not. Have I seen a few wins that looked shady? Yes, but really very few in the big picture. More common by far is the situation at all-breeds where some doddering old wombat who never accomplished a thing in GSDs and doesn't know the breed gives a dog a group or a BIS just because some of his other Ancient Cronies have done so, and the dog's owners are spending a bunch of money on glossy overpriced ads in ego-massaging coffee table mags. NEVERTHELESS (ahem, please read carefully), I LOVE every all-breed show, and every specialty show, and every GSD dog and person that enters in conformation anywhere because they're keeping it alive, and the whole thing may soon disappear or become so miniscule that we'll all have to find new ways to release the toxic gasses of our pent up grouchiness, and that would cause massive confusion and general disorientation. tom elkins www.firethorntemple.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================