[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Who knows what lurks in the minds of men?

  • From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: Penny & Bill <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:02:48 +0000 (UTC)

Yes Penny, it's all about ego, many are in denial about this fact, and yes, 
most judges are not stupid......but many are weak, some are insecure, some 
want to "join the crowd" by putting up the so-called winning dog...they don't 
want to go againt the pick of a popular dog....advertising helps cover up for 
weak and or dis-honest judging....they can just put up the dog that always 
wins, or worst yet, the handler that always wins....years ago in Utah at a GSD 
Specialty show combined with a 3 day all-breed shows....the popular GSD won the 
specialty show and went Best in Show all three days...the dog was handled by a 
very well known and respected GSD handler.......the judges that put this dog up 
all went along with the crowd ( other judges)......let me add, this was a nice 
GSD.....but to most observers she was not the best dog all three 
days......advertising showed that dog and that handler in advertisements all 
throughout the dog world....advertising works......30 seconds during the Super 
Bowl on Feb 5th will cost  millions of dollars ...and millions of people will 
watch it.....Ed Hill 

  

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From: "Penny & Bill" <ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Cc: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx, ELG440@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:55:58 AM 
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Who knows what lurks in the minds of men? 

I think advertising is not so much "influencing the judge" as letting   
PEOPLE KNOW our dogs are out there competing.  Judges aren't stupid;   
they realize (like everyone else does) that paid ads can claim   
anything they want to claim--they don't mean the claims are true!  I   
also believe that there's a mixture of ego and pride in ads; naturally   
we want our dogs to win and want the world to know it (the ego.)  And   
the child in us is intoxicated with love for our dogs (the pride.) 

Penny in NC 
The Farm Dog 
*************************************************************** 
On Jan 13, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Laura Havis wrote: 

> I thought the same!!  But with some reflection, I realized that when   
> at the 
> nationals, I look for the dogs I saw in the review, to see if   
> they're "what" 
> the advertising claims. Many of the adds feature dogs not being   
> shown, but 
> their progeny will be. 
> I'm sure some advertise in hopes of influencing the judges.  Proof   
> of this 
> is the fact that many of the dog publications, such as the Canine   
> Chronicle, 
> are sent directly to the judges.  However, not all advertisement is   
> meant 
> for ulterior motives. 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> Laura Havis 
> 
> � I guess the fact that� the Review, the month before the National,   
> is very 
> large is just a coincidence....shame on me for thinking anything   
> else...I 
> was born at night...but it Ã? wasn't last night,,...Ed 
> 
> 
> I advertise to show off what my dogs have done. It is pure ego. 
> Evan Ã? Ginsburg 


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