The answer is to show under better judges - the ones who can and do read and understand the standard. I have seen coats (untrimmed) win when deserved - but the fact that the coat is a fault makes it harder when all else is equal. A good judge will judge well. Often those do not get the assignments. Ruth ________________________________ From: Carrie & Oak Smith <oakridgegsd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:09 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Who is Going to Show a Longcoat? I have asked for the class after being ignored in specialty shows. I have had wonderful compliments from both judges and people ringside, but never even received a reserve. The reality is we put up dogs who are terribly dirty in the rear or who can barely be examined due to temperament problems and ignore a coat. I feel an obligation to show since I asked for the class, though I havenâ??t made that decision as yet. People wonder why we donâ??t have enough entries in specialties...The snipey comments from some on this list certainly make me want to enter the all breed shows, rather than continue to support the specialty shows. I mistakenly thought that people who love the breed could see a quality animal in spite of the coat, and truly, I believe those people exist, but some of the comments on the list disgust me as if this is some kind of joke. Carrie From: Carolyn Martello Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM To: oakridgegsd@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; The List Subject: Re: Who is Going to Show a Longcoat? I can only assume this is meant 'tongue in cheek'......as I just cannot imagine anyone changing their breeding program just to exhibit in a fault class........??  <G> Carolyn  marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com  ----- Original Message -----  From: Carrie & Oak Smith To: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; The List  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:23 AM  Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Who is Going to Show a Longcoat?  Though I was planning to breed my coat this summer, I'm seriously  considering postponing that so she can be shown...  Carrie  -----Original Message-----  From: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:13 AM  Now that we have a class for longcoats at the National, I am curious to know who is going  to show in it at the national? I don't know anyone that shows and breeds that has one, except  for me.  Ann  www.edangsd.com  Home of AOE Sel Ex Ch Gilley ROM,Sel Ex Ch Maxwell,Can GV Sel Ex GCh Kobe  and Sel Ch MmmMmm Good, #1 dam Muggles, Breeder-owner 0f 88 champions and 24  ROMs.  Proud receipient of Lloyd Brackett Award ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org ; SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================