Evan- In partial answer to your question, Try giving a breed seminar to prospective judges or to all-breed judges trying to get german shepherd certification and after using videos and live demonstrations, you then hand out our present Illustrated Standard and the attendees ask if the I.S. is of the German Shepherd? There is a marked difference between todays GSD and the GSD of 50 years ago when the present I.S. was illustrated. An example is when I look at pictures of my first Champions (1968) and present Champions (2004) there is a difference ,especially in angulation, that I think needs to be addressed to bring the German Shepherd into the 21st century. Not that there is anything right with that. D.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Who asked anyway? > > > In a message dated 3/11/05 6:25:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > LEWIEB@xxxxxxx writes: > the plant builders don't have to answer to our membership and your Board > does. > > > I have been following this thread for a while now, and realize all the work > that has been done over the past years on the illustrated standard. I also > know how much dedicated time and energy has been expended, and how many hard > feelings it has generated. I know how much the board and in particular the > committee has worked on this, and it is appreciated. Lannalee has dedicated a > good share of her life on this. > > Now, that being said, would it be foolish, (shut up Paul) to ask, why is it > being done? > > Have we failed to improve this breed over the past 50 years because our > illustrated standard was no good? Have the breeders been in a quandry to figure > out which stud dogs to use because we didn't have a good illustrated > standard? Have judges fallen down in the ring weeping and unable to find winners, > because we didn't have a good illustrated standard? > > Why is this being done, what problem or problems will it eliminate if we get > it right, and what problems now exist because we have an improper or useless > illustrated standard? > > I have been waiting for someone to answer or even to ask those questions. I > just wonder what is broken that we are trying to fix? > > Not that there is anything wrong with that. > > Evan > > _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) > http://www.asgardgsd.com/ > Where Type Movement and Temperament come together > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================