In a message dated 12/17/2005 5:06:52 PM Central Standard Time, MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx writes: The dog I showed was from the AKC website on the illustrated standard ----------------------------------------- The original illustrated standard does not have color pictures. That picture is an illustration on the page that shows the written standard. I'm pretty sure that is a drawing of Manhattan. There has probably never been and never will be another dog with the showmanship that Manhattan had. I saw the dog shown several times and each time I applauded for him. Even so, and despite the fact that Hatter was a great ambassador for the breed ... the dog was not perfect structurally. Tom Langlitz ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================