[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Who are we kidding?
- From: "Joan Fox" <campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:03:30 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
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HM.... The drawing you showed has a dog with a bad back, short, steep cro=
up,
and a short lower thigh.=0D
The pigment is lacking, the upper arm is short, as is the neck.=0D
Take a look at the notable dogs on the PC website.=0D
I have never finished a dog that did not drive of the rear and/ or was di=
rty
going away.=0D
I will send you my website in another mail so you can see them.=0D
Joan=0D
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From: MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx=0D
Date: 12/17/05 17:08:16=0D
To: EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=0D
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Who are we kidding?=0D
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For example Monsieur, I interpret "The withers are higher than and slopin=
g=0D
into the level back. The back is straight, very strongly developed withou=
t
sag=0D
or roach, and relatively short." to mean a dog that looks like this when=0D
stacked: http://www.fluffyrat.net/wildfyre/GSD.GIF=0D
Not a dog whose butt heads south for the winter.=0D
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And I interpret "The whole assembly of the thigh, viewed from the side, i=
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broad, with both upper and lower thigh well muscled, forming as nearly as=
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possible a right angle."=0D
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To mean NEARLY a right angle, not EXACTLY as I see so many these days, wh=
ich=0D
takes away from the structure of the dog, as they now have an excessive
amount=0D
of thigh/stifle bone, which takes move time to move and follow through in
the=0D
rear, and thus, there goes the drive, because the dog can't extend proper=
ly=0D
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The metatarsus (the unit between the hock joint and the foot) is short,=0D
strong and tightly articulated.=0D
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Which I take to mean as "The dog shouldn't be able, or shouldn't HAVE to =
put=0D
his entire hock on the floor to support his body weight."=0D
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The ideal dog in the picture does not place his whole hock on the ground,=
he=0D
does not have an excessive slope to his topline, and his rear does not ha=
ve
a=0D
bunch of right angles. This is the style of dog I wish to breed for when=
I=0D
finally get that far.=0D
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This is where interpretations differe, and where style comes into play.=0D
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In a message dated 12/17/2005 3:43:41 PM Central Standard Time,=0D
EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx writes:=0D
I would like some=0D
one to point out the places in it where you can have much of a different=0D
interpretation.=0D
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- Jackie=0D
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Marcato Shepherds=0D
Where it's about function, not flash=0D
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