How about Hemangiosarcoma? I know there were diseases back in the 60's and 70's but how many GSD's were lost as pups to 7 years of age back then? I remember HD as being the top reason but even then they lived to be in their teens. These were the German GSD's though but then of course most GSD's I knew were. However in the beginning most top American GSD's lines came from Germany. Even Lloyd who my father knew used the German lines in the beginning as he used them though linebreeding and inbreeding off the line of Utz von Haus Schutting. Then you can add some Long-Worth dogs carried the White recessive gene to stay on topic. Ch Dennis of Long Worth Ch Derry of Long Worth ROM Ch Drum of Long Worth ROM Zeal of Long Worth Ch Zeno of Long Worth Theresa ________________________________ Carolyn wrote: I see no issues now that were not around in the 60s and 70s. Also, Scootie and Pat were working tirelessly to protect the breed from these same problems. My Mike daughter died of toxic gut in the early 70s as did her daughter. You say you have owned and love (sic) this breed for over 50 years. Well, so have i, and I see nothing new in health problems but much progress on the part of the GSDCA to solve them. Carolyn From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> To: "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Whites fmurch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: >>>>I have owned and love this breed for over 50 years and I can tell you first hand, that some of the issues we see today, especially Toxic Gut was something I never saw in my dogs until the 90's. My first GSD who was a Troll granddaughter lived to over 15 and was never sick a day in her life. Food for thought.<<<< That is wonderful to have a GSD live that long and something that is very important to point out. I grew up with family and friends owning GSD's never use to hear of health or temperament issues as we have today. First GSD I bought could eat anything never a sick day in his life, however I lost him to Hemangiosarcoma 8 weeks before his 11th birthday 23 years ago. It is in certain bloodlines and we will continue to lose our dogs to this disease until breeders and owners look at the overall picture and admit there is a problem and solve it. Theresa ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================