Donna, you make my argument much better than I did, thank you!...Ed Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pharaohsrevenge" <pharaohsrevenge@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 4:40:10 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Whites This is a great post Ken! The issue doesnt stop with just the white coat either. There are plenty of people achieving great things and contributing to the GSD breed with their "colored" dogs from whites. Personally, I have a black and tan from a white that is an AKC and Can champion. Evan and Ann have spoken of her in the past on here and can attest to her quality (sorry to put you on the spot Evan and Ann) I know of other white factored dogs with AKC champ points. There's a black  and tan from a white that holds the record in dock diving for GSDs. There's many that compete in rally and obedience successfully. So whites do contribute to the GSD breed in more ways than many of you even realize. If their colored offspring are able to be part of this breed and be successful showing the versatility of the GSD breed,  how can their white parent be considered anything but a GSD? And why not give them equal rights? Donna Adding a color variety would not at all detract from the working aspects of the breed. What it would do is increase participation and club membership. White GSDs are just as capable working dogs as any other color. We have at least three factions now (seriously, you know we do----specialty, all breed, obedience, comeon), so this is nothing new. What we need to do now is unite. We need to unite all German Shepherds. Our National should include all German Shepherds, American, German, and yes, White GSDs. Time has proven that there is no good reason to separate. It has not served us well. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org  SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================