White dogs in Aussies, shelties, etc are the result of a double merle gene rather than epistatic white like is in our GSD and other shepherding breeds. Interestingly, breeds that have the M-m Merle gene present in the population do NOT have the e-e white gene. It is well known that being a double-Merle causes eye/ear problems as well as fertility issues, usually sterility. JP&P JayDee's Proud-Haus Shepherds/Proud K911 www.jaydeesphs.com Committed to the Total Dog you can be Proud of!!! AKC Breeder of Merit > On Oct 30, 2013, at 15:51, Jackie Short-Nguyen <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > I don't know about the Belgian dogs, but with Aussies the issue of too much > white is deafness. They have an actual health concern. > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:47 PM, carolyn mckenna > <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > >> There is only one breed in the entire herding group that allows for a >> white dog: the puli, and most of them are black. Due to an over abundance >> of white tending to produce even more white, many breeds have a DQ or >> serious fault for a certain percentage of white: Aussies, B. Malinois, B. >> sheepdogs, B. Turvuren, Cardigans, Pembrokes, Shelyies, etc. >> Someone give us a reason that allowing a white shepherd promotes >> the betterment of the breed. >> Carolyn >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 2:20 PM, James Barnhart < >> jim_barnhart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> I was only a teenager when the the DQ for whites was added to the >> Standard. I remember that whites used to show up routinely in litters in >> Black and Tan breedings and people were not happy that there was so much >> white in the gene pool and wanted to weed it out. It was a good move then >> and worked. No longer is a white showing up a concern. Jim >> Barnhart===========================================================================POST >> is Copyrighted 2012. 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