Evan, I agree. Passion is a wonderful thing. I, for one, was disappointed at the result of the "white" vote as I too think they are beautiful and German s Shepherd Dogs, to boot. But the membership has spoken. Penny in NC The Farm Dog Forever ******************************************** As to the Whites, I have another take on it. They are all German shepherds. I even think they are beautiful dogs. I admire those who have dedicated themselves to working against the standard since they believe so strongly in what they are doing. (See what being a flaming liberal causes me to do?). The breeders of Whites love their dogs, and are hard working honest people. The GSDCA has decided, white or rong, (yes, I did that on purpose), that they will remain part of our breed with a DQ in conformation only. I respect that as I respect the board. That is the current status and I support it. If it changes in the future, and I am alive to see it, I will support it then too. If I am dead, I have no opinion, and I will leave it to others to determine the impact on the world. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan