In a message dated 8/4/11 4:40:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, pharaohsrevenge@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Personally, I have a black and tan from a white that is an AKC and Can champion. Evan and Ann have spoken of her in the past on here and can attest to her quality (sorry to put you on the spot Evan and Ann) I have spoken of this bitch in public before. When I judged the White National they had a class for black and tans out of a white parent, I think they called it the Stock Class, or something like that. This bitch was an easy winner in the class, and I told the owner she could finish in any GSD show. I was told that previously another AKC judge had said the same thing, and I think that was Ann. I don't care what color the parents were, and actually, I didn't care what color the bitch was. This is a spectacular bitch. I heard nothing else until I saw her picture in the Review as a champion. If a white bitch were shown of that quality and the GSDCA did not make it a fault, she would win every time, under a good judge. A good dog is a good dog. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================