I totally agree, if we allow white shepherds to show in all performance venues then they deserve the win. I guess I don't understand why they are DQ in conformation but can enter in all performance class but if a white wins a high title then the whole white gsd becomes an issue. Like Amy said its performance. Your more then willing to take their entries and money but it is an issue if they win? Sorry doesn't make sense to me. Denise Fox Foxhavengsd@xxxxxxx GCH Foxhaven-MyJoy Good Girl Gone Bad V Windfall - Rihanna Foxhaven Devil in Desquise v Franken Major pointed -Saber On Oct 15, 2013, at 6:47 PM, "Penny & Bill" <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: You've got THAT right, Amy. But a few people I know just HAVE TO have the last words. Have at it, people. Hehehehehe . . . . Penny in NC The Farm Dog Forever Come on people.......so she is white.....she is a GERMAN SHEPHERD. Her owner worked very hard to get her to the level that she competed in and did well enough to become the Obedience Victrix. They are not judged on color or conformation.......they are judged solely on how they go through the different exercises needed to score high. Obedience is not easy......especially at the higher level. I put a CD myself on my first Ch.Elway........it was not easy.....but we did it. Give it a rest and worry about something that you can do something about.......HUGE CONGRATS TO RON AND HIS WHITE OBEDIENCE VICTRIX.........me thinks it is time to set vacation or go to digest!!!! Amy Greenhut Justrock German Shepherds Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises And Tortoise Rescue Board Member Last Hope Safe Haven http://www.lhsh.org Behold The Turtle. He Makes Progress Only When He Sticks His Neck Out A Quote By James Conant ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================