I have a litter of 12 puppies out of my solid black MVX CH Karizma's Liberia von Loar OFA, bred to a dog that I thought "may" carry for black (there are dogs in his pedigree that carried for black). I did not get any solid blacks - I would think in a litter of 12, I would get one or two solid blacks; but after reading Paulette's post, I guess not. Do you think there is still a chance that the sire of my litter carries for Black ? Iza Kabuska http://www.Karizmashepherds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================