If you have never meet Norma you are missing out...I must admit I do not always agree with her...and as a matter of fact...I do not even understand everything she writes...but I read every post she sends to the list...I always pay attention to folks smarter than me...even if they are a little different...and believe me..there are some DIFFERENT kinds of folks on this list...and thats what makes it better...just like Tom C would say....JUST BREED BETTER DOGS...lol..I keep trying Tom...lol...FB ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================