At 08:32 AM 7/14/2009 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Amy: >My reproduction vet has me count 9 weeks (63 days) from the ovulation >date....not breeding date.? In the old days, progestering testing was not >available, and we used the first breeding date.? This is why whelping date >could be 57 - 63 days from date of first breeding. > >Of course, unless you know the ovulation date, you really are at nature's >mercy as to when the pups will arrive.? Also, pups can arrive a day or two >prior or after ovulation date, too. > >What is her rectal temperature?? You are looking for a drop to 98.???, and >then a rise back up to almost normal.? The litter will arrive when the >number is back up, not at a low number.? > >FYI - This current litter, my bitch and the stud had their first tie 4 >days before she ovulated.? This explains why her previous litters, no >progesterone testing done, arrived 4 days after her due?date. > >Good luck with the babies. > >B Hively We had a bitch years ago that we tried to breed 3 times after she finished her Championship. She did not get pregnant any of those times. Although her seasons appeared to be totally normal, we decided to do the progesterone testing. I had to drive well over 100 miles each way & each day after her 7th day. Anyway, we found that she did not ovulate until day 21 - 22. She really was not interested in breeding at that time, but did allow it. Anyway, she had 9 healthy puppies. Her second litter we did not do the testing but instead bred her on the 20th day & she had another large, healthy litter. I really do believe in the testing if a bitch seems to have any problems. Sandy Sandra Kozub KcK Kennels http://iweb.tntech.edu/rkozub/kennel.htm ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================