[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Whelping - More URGENT questions

  • From: "Gail Bauman" <gailbauman@xxxxxx>
  • To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:28:18 -0600

Excellent information - I think at least 3 of the 5 from my first litter were 
feet first, and that's exactly what I did - grabbing the feet and using a 
towel, moving them out with her contractions.  Worked well.  I too would like 
to hear from others as to what they do. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx 
  To: MontanosaGSD@xxxxxxx ; rockannand@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:53 AM
  Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Whelping - More URGENT questions


  In a message dated 2/25/2006 3:41:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
  MontanosaGSD@xxxxxxx writes:
  Thanks  everyone for your help.  I went ahead and rushed her to   emergency.  
  They gave her a shot, but unfortunately, the little   girl was breach and 
  didn't 
  make it.  At least the others are fat  and  sassy and Mom is doing great. No 
  C-section which makes me  happy.

  Thanks again.

  Kim



  Kim, maybe others could share their experiences, but I find that half or so  
  of our GSD puppies are born breech.  (I had one recently, not breech, but  
who 
  presented out of the sack, belly up, had her head bent to the side and  
  wanted to come out one shoulder first.  Now that was a weird one, and yes,  
thank 
  God, she's fine.) 
   
  Breech puppies in the sack don't cause mom a problem. If you aren't sure  
  how, speak with someone about how to help with the breech puppies that are 
out  
  of the sack.  I find a bar towel works best (the thin ones used on fine  
  glassware, no lint, not at all slippery even when they are soaked w/  fluids 
and 
  they aren't bulky), you reach up and gently hold on to both feet  w/ the 
towel 
  through a contraction and gently ease the puppy towards the mom's  belly (not 
  out or straight down).  As you ease the puppy out, you'll be  able to move 
the 
  towel further up toward the hips/midsection and not be tugging  on their 
legs. 
  When you have both feet, though, you can't let go or after the  contraction 
  the puppy could go up inside mom and be out of reach until the  next  
  contraction, and if that happens you just might not have enough time  to get 
the puppy 
  out alive. You need both legs to do this though, and  unfortunately, what you 
  will sometimes see w/ breech puppies (out of the  sack) is they may get a leg 
  caught over top of the bitch's pelvic bone, present  with one back leg only, 
  with the other leg trapping the umbilical cord against  the pelvic bone and 
if 
  you don't get them out of there fast (NOT always  possible), they 
  suffocate....so in a situation where you can only see/ feel one  back foot, 
you'll have to 
  try with your index finger and loop the other back leg  back over the pelvic 
  bone before you can proceed.  If you are lucky enough  to do that, don't let 
go!
   
  I asked the list a while back how others used pit and or calcium.   
  Experiences varied widely.  I will tell you this, though.  I won't  whelp a 
litter 
  without pit on hand.  The next time you whelp a litter, have  some on hand 
from 
  your vet.  It's a big guessing game when and how much,  and like I said, 
  individual experiences vary widely (prayer is a must too, that  you are 
making the 
  right call!), but talk to your vet for instruction.  At  a minimum, when you 
  think they are finished, 1cc will clean out any placentas  that weren't 
passed 
  and this way you aren't running to the vet w/ a new mom and  babies and/or 
  risking infection from something left inside mom.
   
  Enjoy your babies!
   
  Kathy



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