In a message dated 12/21/04 10:18:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Peggygsd@xxxxxxx writes: We need discussion of the German dogs interacting with our American lines. This could be a learning experience. The problem seems to be you do not get what you see. A dog may be bred on German lines, and look American style, but he caries the genes for his pedigree. I remember Dave Rinke's dog Rollins. When I judged him, I thought he looked more like the German style, and now he has produced not what he looked like, but what was behind him. We often think if we see a bitch that looks like what we want, she will produce what we see. That is seldom the case. It is the genes and the dogs behind in the pedigree and what we breed that dictates what we produce. Going to Germany and seeing an American style bitch may not provide you what you want in your breeding program. You may have one generation of what you want, but this should be not for one winner but for the future of our breed, and it is the producing abilities that we need to find. On the other hand, it might just be enough to get one good dog. I know that has been enough for me for years and years now. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================