Well, Stormy, the one part of your note that stuck out in my mind as I read it was something that has bothered me for many years in my many breedings of many kinds of critters!!! No matter what the problem, it's most always blamed on the "stud"!! One reason I feel for this is that a male is able to sire more offspring, generally, than a female and that's why --- I think. It's not always the case tho, as it does take both of the parents to cause a certain something in the offspring one way or another. We did, in the 70s and/or 80s I think, have some leggy boys. I'm not sure that is what you're talking about here as they were neat guys anyway, overall. Movement has always been something a bit hard to be specific about it seems as I've seen so many different ones it's really a lot of what is so common with people! One person's trash is another's treasure and everyone has a different way of looking at stuff. I may like something but you may think it's yucko and viceversa. It's what makes the world go around and remember that variety is the spice of life and we all enjoy spices as well as the variety. The thing I'd been thinking about recently was why do some tails seem to have a little curl toward the end and, from the ones I've known, it wasn't an injury that caused it, but I'm not sure it's really a fault as such. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stormy Hope" <stormy435@xxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 1:20 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] What was the influence? There was a period in the not too distance past when the Conformation GSDs walked on their hocks and had spaghetti for rear legs. This was easing out just as I was easing in to GSDs. Was there a particular "popular stud" that started this trend, or was it a combination of breedings that were winning (how???). It must have started from someplace, and breeders were breeding to dogs who looked like that, or it wouldn't have happened. I'm just curious. This is far enough in the past that I think we can discuss the wherefores and whyfores w/out being negative about anybody. Stormy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================