Ok guess cause it's raining and I'm catching up and sometimes that could be a problem...I noticed this thread and am very confused by the problem... My question, not knowing all of the reasons for it being such a big deal...since you have so many facts about "this guy", have you invested this much time in your own breeding program, backyard and/or education to understand breeding of animals...??? The whole Inbreeding/linebreeding etc etc. There are plus' and minus' for everything we do...he has to guarantee them, live with his own choices and stand behind them... If his dogs are healthy, mentally sound & well cared for...what does it matter what he is doing...don't we live in the USA??? If we start regulating what everyone does we become something other than the country that our forefathers fought for... Just a question, not trying to be nasty...just not understanding the big deal. If you don't like what he is doing, don't buy one...pretend it doesn't exist, move on & just know what you want from your own breeding ethics. Donna M. Calabrese Aramist German Shepherds aka The Girlz From companion - working - champions - Grand Victrix's...we have it all www.girlzofaramist.com and to now travel at 2 star prices at 4 star accomodations, the best airfare guaranteed www.aramistTravel.worldventures.biz -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kristen Cabe Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:07 PM To: SHOWGSD-L Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: What to do re:a 'breeder' selling inbred, AKC reg'd puppies? Let me be clear. I'm not against linebreeding or inbreeding, when it's done for a reason other than the fact that you don't have any other dogs to put together to get puppies. This guy is VERY clearly a BYB. He began breeding a few years ago with his 10-year old male and this same female (she is 3.5 years old now). The sire to this litter is the offspring of those two dogs, and was bred back to his mother because his father is now 'retired.' I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't breed the father of this litter to one of his sisters in the near future. The only good thing this guy seems to do is wait until the females are 2 years old before breeding them. He does not do OFA or any other health clearances, though, and his dogs are oversized and he's proud of it. The 9-month old that's the father of this litter is 28 inches tall already, according to this guy. He says he's working with the AKC to try and get a new class of GSD within the next 3 years. **eye roll** I can share a link, but I didn't know if that was allowed. Kristen ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================