Did they study bloodline relationships? Joan ----- Original Message ---- From: "JANGSD@xxxxxxx" <JANGSD@xxxxxxx> To: epeningt@xxxxxxxxxx; uwish@xxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:08:52 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: What ever happened to our dog's posternum? This is the Linda Ardnt's take on the Purdue Study: Chest Ratio In the early stages of this research, their hypothesis was -- the measurements of height, width and depth of the dog's chest - chest ration - was the determining factor for those prone to bloating. And if your dog fell within a certain range, it was at risk and would more than likely bloat. The dogs that were not within this particular ratio were unlikely to bloat. Many of the "chest measurements" were taken at the Great Dane National and at Great Dane Specialty Shows over the years, so the majority of the dogs measured were from breeders. Now enough time has passed, that some of the dogs that were not supposed to bloat due to chest ratios, HAVE bloated and this has caused some considerable skepticism in the breed. Knowledgeable breeders tend to disregard this study completely anyway. I believe this has probably been somewhat of an embarrassment to those involved in the study and therefore the focus of the study has now shifted to other issues like elevated dishes and diets (citric acid, fats, etc.). Dane breeders are no longer dumping money into this project because they realize the real problem is the _enviroment of the gut_ (http://www.greatdanelady.com/articles/bloat_and_allergies.htm) and with changes in foods and the use of probitoics in the past 15 years the amount of bloat has severly decreased. Janet _www.JanMarGsd.com_ (http://www.JanMarGsd.com) **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================