Congratulations to all of you! Maybe one of our Juniors could explain a little about how the point system works? It would really help everyone understand just how big of an accomplishment it is. I am just starting to get a feel for how it works, so I am not the best person to explain it. Ok this is how the point schedule works for jr. You get a point for every junior you beat in your class that is present. Lets say there is 20 juniors and you place second so you get 18 points. You don't count yourself or obviously the person who beat you. If you get Best Junior Handler you get points from each class so lets say there was 1 Novice jr, 1 Novice Intermediate, 1 Novice senior, 2 open jr,5 open intermediates, and 5 open seniors. there would be a total of 15 juniors and the junior who gets best junior receives 14 points and doesn't receive any points for getting first in their class. Then theres another point schedule that's toward westminster qualifiers and Eukanuba. Every time you place first you get one point toward Eukanuba/Westminster. Both shows begin adding point at different time in the year like Eukanuba starts in October I believe and Westminster starts in December. The points are all erased at the end of the year and you start over fresh... but the first placements in December for Westminster and Eukanuba carry over into the new year. The Novices do not get any points toward westminster or Eukanuba, they just need there three, first placements (with comp) to novice out. Even if they get a Best junior the point will not count unless they novice out that same day, but do not receive a point toward westminster or Eukanuba for getting Best Junior Handler out of the novice class. I think I covered everything lol. Melissa Chavez GsD & CwC ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================