[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: What I have said for years now
- From: Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx" <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:17:39 -0700 (PDT)
 OK....what you fail or refuse to understand, Theresa, is that in the length
of time since the German dogs were brought in and today's dogs the type between
both countries has become too diversified to put back together.
The German's have no desire to do so for many reasons and while many, many,
American breeders have tried the results have not been that successful. Spotty
at best.
A few breeders imported some gorgeous Alsatian's from England in the 70's but
the quarantines and costs shut this down.Â
In this day and age and economy and zoning and insurance restrictions,I doubt
that kennels of the size to keep and test breed offspring from these crosses
even exist.
Every breed of dog has a country of origin and it is up to the breeder, no
matter where in te world they live, to improve upon that original animal for
the good of the breed.
Joan F. Fox
17500 Haskins Rd.
Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023
tel: 440-759-4119
http://www.campaignersgsds.com
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> From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:57 PM
>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: What I have said for years now
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>On Wed, 8/28/13, ELG440@xxxxxxx <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] What I have said for years now
>To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date: Wednesday, August 28, 2013, 2:42 PM
>
>I agree. But, then why do so many keep saying the blood
>lines are tooÂ
>limited and we need to breed to dogs outside the
>country? I don't agree. We
>have everything we need here in the United States, well,
>maybe also Canada,
>and Mexico, and perhaps, Ireland.
>Â
>Evan L. Ginsburg
>
>Do we have Health and Temperament?
>
>Well history proved that America needed German GSD's to produce the dogs we
>have today... How would Lance be here without them?
>
>
>"The new pedigrees of German shepherd dogs resulted from the infusion of
>out-cross blood, and by the 1950s, America began the blended breeding
>technique. The results eventually produced stronger emphasis on high-quarter
>strength, upper leg strength and increased muscle and bone density. The
>cropped ears and head began to take on a more pleasing, standardized
>appearance, increasing the German shepherd dogâs show qualities. Troll von
>Richterbach, a 1957 Grand Victor dog, was hugely influential in producing the
>finest qualities found in the German Shepherd history of the breed."
>
>"The most influential German shepherd dog import breeds to America in Americas
>German shepherd history were
>
>Falk v Eningsfeld and Bernd v Kallengarten, both brought in by Ernie Loeb.
>
>Both dogs possessed dominant qualities for bones, feet, suspension, forehand,
>shoulder, tailset, head, crop and body length. There were occasional problems
>with weaknesses for ears, steep, loose ligament structure, long coats and
>elbow and hip dysplasia. The 1960s introduced a revival of sorts where
>American breeders followed their own whim and preferences. This time produced
>some of the best stud lines, bringing about the emergence of the âFâ line,
>with such dogs as Field Marshall, Fels, Fortune and Fashion and others bred by
>Lucy Woodard. One notable German shepherd dog, Lance of Fran-Jo, an
>American-Canadian Grand Victor, enhanced the line further by accentuating
>sidegait, topline and angulation traits. Lance was widely bred in America,
>negating the need for quality imports. Lanceâs descendants populated the
>1970s and became Americaâs unique foundation and lineage of the German
>shepherd dog breed.
>
>Both the American and German shepherd dog breeding systems have introduced
>desirable and even undesirable traits into the breed, but the pros far
>out-weight the cons when realizing that the breed is a unanimous success
>story. It might be argued that the combination of both systems might one day
>produce the perfect German Shepherd. The debate will go on. The Americans will
>forever do things their way whether they are influenced from inside or outside
>the country. The Germans will abide and endure the SV stipulations and follow
>suit, but it does not mean that they will cease to improve the breed. The
>question is, what surprises will the countries have for the world in the
>future? It looks undeniably bright for the German Shepherd dog."
>
>Source...
>
>http://germanshepherdsetc.com/german-shepherd-dog-history/
>
>Where would Long Worth Kennel of Lloyd's be without the German GSD's?
>
>I will never understand why years ago it was a good thing but today it is
>frowned upon. It should never be us against them as it seems today's world
>proves as no country can compromise for a peaceful world.
>
>Theresa
>
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