Oh the Border Collie people are crazier than we are <VBG>. Many of the people w/ "working" dogs seem to think working ability is connected to the butt ugly gene and there are some really butt ugly BCs in herding and agility, some you would be hard pressed to identify as the same. Mike has a lovely BC special out now, I have met his owner who is taking him herding and I really hope she sticks with it. Me? I color within the lines. Give me a standard and I am happy to follow it. (And I know pretty dogs can work!) Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 11/12/2013 4:37:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, arcturusgermanshepherds@xxxxxxxxx writes: Border Collie way. Either breed, like us has its working type dogs and its show dogs. She sent this quote to me today from a man named Christopher who breeds sable Border Collies. In light of what this list has been discussing its interesting this happens in other breeds: But the sheeple would tell me that those dogs are Barbie Collies so I canât breed to them in their sand box, and the showple would tell me that some of the dogs in the previous image are not purebred Border Collies and thus I canât breed to them in their sand box. Neither of them seem to appreciate that when you make your sand box so small by kicking other people and their dogs out of it, the only thing itâs good for is to collect cat feces. ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================