Ohhhhhhh CRAP, that's right! Or for $40 or so we can DNA test and provide copies of the PDF to whoever is interested. I do that now for DM, coat length and black recessive. What's another $40? You know what Caroline? Sick to death of the inferences of "breeder's should" or "why don't" etc. From now on when that type of rant starts from somebody I am going to check web sites rather than waste time. If they have something I'm interested in or even structurally correct dogs, then maybe I'm interested in their opinion. If not...well, not so much and no sense engaging because obviously they know it all or can cite a book at the very least. Yes, everyone is entitled to have an opinion about breeding better dogs, but I'm thinking I'll give it the same weight as the opinion of the man down the street w/ a labradoodle. Then I'll remind myself, just as I do with the man down the street, that it's wonderful that people love their dog and get about my day:). Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 9/16/2013 12:35:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Just a small sample of why breeders had to insist on seeing the colors of each dog in a pedigree recorded...and will again if the white DQ is lifted. Even then...you won't know about littermates... Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================