Evan, Yes this list started out as a conformation list and still is but after all the years of its existence how many times can you discus various issues? You yourself have the time schedule for certain topics ! After a while you need a variety of topics, especially for such a versatile breed! Besides when did football become something that pertains to the GSD conformation? Yet no one has objected to those discussions, we use the delete key that comes with every computer VBG. I am sure there are sport lists out there. Besides, change is a fact of life. Without change, it will become stagnant and die. Lyn Chernak  Lyn Chernak CherLyn Shepherds - Updated June 06,2010 http://www.cherlynshepherds.com Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership   CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC   Ulric vom Kriegerhaus, RN, TC, CGC   ________________________________ From: Ileana <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx> To: ELG440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 5:39 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: We are what we are, not what we were They do discuss conformation. Its all very civilized. :-) Sent from my Samsung Interceptâ?¢ ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote: >In a message dated 10/14/11 12:00:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >grnram415@xxxxxxx writes: > >Evan, I know change is hard. But, one must be willing to look at all the >options. After all, isn't this a German breed? > > > > >Of course it used to be a German breed. And I used to have a Polish >family. Those things have changed. > >The List was established for conformation exhibitors. I agree we should >discuss all aspects of the breed, but the emphasis should be on >conformation. > Or at least on this List. > >I haven't bred to a Geman dog for over 40 years now. I suppose that makes >my dogs American and my family American as well. > >There are lists for Schutzhund, Obedience, Rally and FlyBall. I wonder if >they discuss conformation on their lists? > >Evan Ginsburg >Asgard German Shepherds >http://www.asgardgsd.com/ >Where Type Movement and Temperament come together > >===========================================================================>POST > is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original >author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind >are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the >Showgsd-l Management. 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NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind >are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the >Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org ; SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ===========================================================================Pacific Daylight Time, >grnram415@xxxxxxx writes: > >Evan, I know change is hard. But, one must be willing to look at all the >options. After all, isn't this a German breed? > > > > >Of course it used to be a German breed. And I used to have a Polish >family. Those things have changed. > >The List was established for conformation exhibitors. I agree we should >discuss all aspects of the breed, but the emphasis should be on >conformation. > Or at least on this List. > >I haven't bred to a Geman dog for over 40 years now. I suppose that makes >my dogs American and my family American as well. > >There are lists for Schutzhund, Obedience, Rally and FlyBall. I wonder if >they discuss conformation on their lists? > >Evan Ginsburg >Asgard German Shepherds >http://www.asgardgsd.com/ >Where Type Movement and Temperament come together > >===========================================================================>POST > is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original >author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind >are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the >Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > >Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and >its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed >in any post. > >ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY >MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS >PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY >FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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