There are some of us out there that are VERY VERY concencious of what we breed. I as well as others go through great pains to avoid issues. Genetics can be really a hard game to play...you have to make sure you don't double up on issues. Yes it is doubly hard when the truth is not out there about alot of dogs but often there are people willing to share what they know...I am blessed to be surrounded by very knowledgable people who share everything with me. Your very right no matter how lovely the dog is if it can't live past 5yrs old what good is it. I breed in this order...health, temperament, and conformation. I always figure without the other 2 first where would the pet puppies end up? Everyone knows they all can't be champions! I just think people need to get smart...steer clear from those who are not concerned with health first! Rebecca Little Peakes Brook German Shepherds http://www.peakesbrookshepherds.com/ > From: Christina Klahn <ducksavsfan@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 8:31:32 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Was white...now health > > Okay, so I'm glad someone brought the subject of healthy dogs up. I agree > totally as far as that goes. I don't care what color a GSD is or really > where they some from as long as they are sound, correct and healthy. I've > only been in the breed a short time, but from my observations there is > more concern over who's popular than who is the best dog. Who cares what > color really? I think someone else mentioned the sheep don't care. > Remember form follows function, or is that as good as a fairy tale. When > our dogs are dying so young these days, isn't color rather a low priority? > My dogs' sire died very young. You think I can find out the real reason he > died? I haven't yet. What good does that do the breed? The one and only > white GSD breeder I know is more conciencous of health than most breeders > I know, regardless the breed. She was floored when I told her I couldn't > find out why my dogs' sire died. How am I supposed to know if it's genetic > and if I should > watch for things in my own dogs? For that matter, know what to avoid when > pairing a bitch with my male? > > Just my two cents, for whatever that it worth. Sorry for the long vent. > > Christina Klahn > Illusion GSDs > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 14, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Msg: #1 in digest > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:04:37 -0800 (PST) > From: Deb Sullivan <victorysbullseye@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: White GSD as a separate breed? > > I just want to say...I don't care if they are White, black or purple poke > a dotted as long as they are healthy > I don't care. > and it seem our beloved breed has many health problems of late. > Deb > > Deb and her Boys > Victory's Bullseye,TT.,CGC.,CD,ASCACD. > Victory's Dubh Mac Tire, CGC(Wolf) 01/23/05-03/28/2007,lost to PAA/EPI > Montauk Sue's Red Codiak > > > > > ===========================================================================POST > > is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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