[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Was Standard Proposal-Why it will pass when the standar...
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- To: hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx, inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:10:02 -0400 (EDT)
CG you will die waiting for that answer. That money is long gone but
WHERE?
Lee Brown
Too far from the womb and too close to the tomb to care about what anyone
thinks of me.
In a message dated 8/26/2014 7:49:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Perhaps the next question should be "Where is the allocated money from
Purina for the Illustrated Standard????" CG
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On Mon, 8/25/14, patty Szymczak <pagairs@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Was Standard Proposal-Why it will pass when the
standard doesn't need changing.
To: "inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "<hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>" <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, August 25, 2014, 10:09 PM
Kathaleen, who took the Illustrated
Standard after you?
Sent from my iPad
On May 21, 2014, at 10:37 AM, "Kathaleen Strong" <inflight@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Well... As much as I normally like to stay the hell out
of all of this list
> business, I read the title, did a little more research,
read a few posts...
> made some coffee.. and now I'm going to make my first
post to this list in
> quite a long time. I'm fairly sure after I've
posted, several of you will
> be displeased.. My apologies in advance.
>
>
> I quoted Christine's post specifically because, I think
that for the first
> time in since I gave up my Long Term membership, this
isn't the answer. I
> had been a member of the GSDCA for 24-25 years (less
the 3 months that my
> membership check was sent back to me because I was late
--- same as almost
> 900 people were...)
>
>
>
> I just deleted two paragraph that even I couldn't put
out there into the
> internet world -- suffice it to say, the Egomaniac(s)
involved in this, have
> been in charge of WRECKING this breed for longer than I
was a member, some
> of them longer than I've been alive, but I believe they
have a particularly
> incessant need to see just how far they can go before
someone says "stop" --
> typical bully behavior really. I mean they've
saddled us with a foundation
> of quicksand for breeding animals. I'm glad I'm
not breeding and competing
> anymore -- I just couldn't take being so angry all the
time watching what
> used to be shows full (and I do mean full -- 100
animals was a small show)
> of magnificent athletes that used to leave me
mesmerized as I watched them
> powerfully float around the ring, turn into
short-necked, plough-horses that
> need a lead to function.
>
>
>
> Worse, I have such retinal damage from looking at
movement pictures on
> facebook that people post and the rest of you all just
"wanna be friends"
> and well I just have come to the conclusion... If
"Knowledgeable" people,
> who have been members of this club for as long as they
have been are willing
> to post movement pictures of clearly outrageously
faulty dogs... I mean In
> just the last few days I had to vomit at one of them...
If this is what
> people think are "good movers" and are putting up
pictures like this -- then
> I'm sorry, there aren't enough members in this club
worthy of making
> decisions with regards to the standard. The
Standard for the German
> Shepherd Dog that we currently have has no need of
change -- what needs to
> change are the idiots in the middle of the ring growing
a set of eyeballs
> and some intestinal fortitude, and start JUDGING DOGS
to the Standard and
> stop giving awards to animals which are not worthy.
>
>
>
> You know what gets me -- The Illustrated Standard was a
project that my team
> was going to get done - and it would have been amazing
-- But certain
> members of the Board of Directors got their ego's in
the mix and because I
> chose independent people (all of whom had been as
successful or more
> successful than most on the Board), and the board
members who had their
> noses out of joint pretty much made it DETESTABLE to
continue. I was 43 at
> the time, and those OLDTIMERS... some of whom may or
may not still be on the
> board, I don't know ... treated me like I was a kid.. I
had Board members
> calling me on the phone and SCREAMING in my ear because
I dared to write
> what happened in the minutes. Oh and.. being
recording secretary wasn't
> even what I was voted in to do -- I had Board members
QUESTION why I was
> creating minutes which contained DETAILS -- well
because as an executive
> secretary as well as a member for a long time -- not to
mention what I
> promised the membership when I was voted in -- they
could be assured that
> they would know what was going on.. HONESTLY??
And of course there will be
> people trying to be snide and say "well you were always
late with them" Do
> you have any idea how revolting it is to have to listen
to the hours of that
> tape and listen to 17 people discuss doing things and
quibble on ad nauseum,
> and then be questioned and screamed at?
>
>
>
> But the ultimate slap in the face was having to defend
my choices for the
> Illustrated Standard Committee -- "Why don't you have
more prestigious
> people on your committee?" Seriously? I
specifically chose people who were
> independent of the machine. I specifically chose
people who weren't blinded
> by their own animals -- I also chose people who had
been successful in
> different venues, both performance and conformation
showing, breeding their
> own winners (not directed by a handler)... and when I
asked for artists --
> and we had some folks submit their work -- they were
drawings of their own
> animals. Seriously? The stupid thing is..
the drawing that we did submit
> to the Board, it was a first sketch... and it was poo
poo'd... the odd thing
> that still makes me laugh in disgust -- it was based
upon the biggest
> detractor's own dog. So, instead we got the
education Chair's pamphlet on
> the "standard" of an animal that most self respecting
breeders of
> conformation animals, would place in a pet home with an
apology for the lack
> of quality. The only thing that I was able to
actually get accomplished was
> to insure we had a professional looking website, and
the Internet Advisory
> Committee was left alone to do its work..which we did
well, but my
> contribution to it will likely never be
remembered. LOL such is life.
>
>
>
> Making unsound decisions was even worse -- An example
-- There were a few
> problems with getting ballots to Canada one year.
Instead of spending extra
> money to make sure they got there and keeping a $12,000
bid (might have
> moved it up to $13,000 with extra costs to Canada), the
pundits of knowledge
> decided "we should go back to what we know.. Honest
Ballot always did the
> job" -- yeah.. $19K worth oh.. I still question how
"honest" they are/were..
> some pretty stupid balloting incongruities took place
while they were doing
> things. And on top of it, my Mother's health was
not good, my business was
> going crazy, and OH RIGHT.. I don't like working with
people who disrespect
> me and the jockeying for individual power was just
gross to watch. I
> resigned.
>
>
>
> But possibly the worst part -- was watching some of
those same Board members
> at work at the Columbus National -- that is when the
wind started really
> leaving my sails -- watching those people persecute one
of their own members
> -- A violation of the rules instigated a response which
also violated the
> rules -- less of a violation than the first violation
-- The instigator was
> not brought up on charges, but the responder was -- it
ruined the rest of
> the show. But it wasn't over then.. it went on
for months.. and instead of
> letting it drop -- they continued on trying to
essentially RUIN these
> people's enjoyment of successfully competing with the
constant threat of
> losing the privilege. That kind of crap is what
the power mongers who lead
> this organization do. And to add slap in the face
to another slap -- the
> first violator was then crowned with the ultimate
breeder award that the
> club gives out. The injustice and inequity of
things for myself was one
> thing, but watching Board Members do the same to
others.. I just stopped
> sending my money in... Me, a longtime member who at one
time, was so broke,
> that the membership and Review were the most important
thing, that I would
> push off other bills to make sure it was paid -- that
wasn't the issue when
> I stopped sending my money in.. I just can't support an
organization that
> continues to mistreat their successful members,
ignoring their success at
> the least, persecuting them at the worst, while they
pander to others.
>
>
>
> At this point, not being a member means we don't get to
vote -- Frankly,
> with the influx of members (given a discount) from the
white faction, and
> the loss of how many members now, plus the WDA
splinter.. I doubt it will
> matter... How many members does this club have now
anyway? When it's all
> said and done? Excellent work GSDCA Board past
and present -- you've done
> your job well.
>
>
>
> As far as removing long coat as a fault? Are you
serious? Oh this is so
> they can legitimize the reason for having a long coat
class -- afterall, who
> in their right mind has a class based upon a fault --
Be aware, the next
> thing will be Best of Variety (like the collies and
cockers). Good grief.
>
>
>
> Color change? Well if your membership wants it,
it will happen.. and when
> you load the membership with folks from that group that
want whites.. it
> will happen.
>
>
>
> So now there will be best of variety, coats and color..
wooba!
>
>
>
> Head Change -- dealing with the nose? The
standard already speaks to this,
> there should be no need to change it. A dog with
a nose not predominantly
> black is to be disqualified. Period, end of
story. Oh wait? Maybe they're
> trying to get rid of disqualifications so that
"everyone can play".
>
>
>
> The bit about dogs biting a judge being disqualified
being removed at the
> request of the AKC? Seriously??? What kind
of people are running that
> ship??
>
>
>
> The world is upside down.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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